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My First interaction with a provider where I mentioned VasoVagel

From: SusanC
Date: 4/21/00
Time: 1:58:53 PM
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Thought I'd update the group on my follow-up dentist appointment with a new clinic. I was sent packing by my last dentist when I described my dizzyness associated with novacaine/-caine derivatives. They assumed I was allergic, and headed for analphalatic shock. My doctor was of no help when I saw him on this issue.

I was told about VV by a doctor my sister knows and I finally deduced after visiting this website that I actually was experiencing vaso-vagel responses to triggers--primarily intramuscular injections.

I have not been "diagnosed" or gone to my HMO doctor with this information. He knows my story and never figured it out himself. Doubt I would be a candidate for the pacemaker or medication, like so many of you. I don't have any digestive tract tie-in at all, and I have had ECGs recently. One question I have: is an ECG sensitive enough to detect the heart issues some of you have reported?

I talked to the new dentist about VV and, thank goodness, he was familiar with the syndrome and referred to it as vaso-vagel shock. He seemed to think it was all brought on by pain or anxiety, which I wasn't able to persuade him of anything different. No big deal. By the way, three babies by natural childbirth says I can handle pain, flat on my back of course.

He agreed to work on me, (slowly and calmly seemed to be his strategy--remember...I'm panic stricken). I have never had an problem with dentists, as I have never had more than cleanings so I find the panic thing amusing. He clued in the hygenist, who practically had me upside down when she lowered my head so far for the cleaning.

I am interested to see how the novacaine works out next week as I've finally got some little cavities to fill, so I'll keep you posted.

THANK YOU Dr. Herr, you have truly provided a service when you gave us this forum. Knowledge is power.

Re: Vasovagal reaction

From: Shelly in Tulsa


I have the same problem, however somewhat different, I never actually faint or black out, I just get very woozy, and soon am unable to support myself, after that I end up making my way to the floor (not by falling) because I can no longer support myself. I never lose consciousness, however I am usualy unable to move for about 30 mins aftrer the episode. Does this help? Also, you may want to have the tilt table test done. It is not pleasant, but it may shed some light on whether or not you have vaso vagal

This web site is not a substitute for a thorough medical evaluation and diagnosis of your vaso-vagal type symptoms.  Medical treatment and diagnosis is the only acceptable initial response to these serious symptoms since they might present from any number of life threatening and treatable illnesses. It is for you and your physician to rule out more serious illnesses; Please don't use this online forum as an alternative to getting responsible medical attention and being under the care of a physician for the duration of any unknown, suspected or dangerous vaso-vagal syndrome symptoms.
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